Tuesday, October 30, 2012

3mm Napoleonics Arrived In 2 Days

Quick and Accurate Service From PicoArmor

I sat around thinking about the Napoleonics for a week, and how I might use them, and then placed an order over the Internet on Saturday the 27th, so for them to arrive by noon today the 30th already was quicker than I had expected. In fact I was still thinking about how I was going to use them.

It was already afternoon when I ordered on Saturday, about 72 hours ago, and I have not even checked my email yet to see if they had confirmed receiving the order. By ordering over 25 dollars' worth, domestic US, I qualified for the free shipping, which cost them $3.65, but because I am in the worst state of the Union,  and so are they, being within the distance I would drive to work at the Salt Mines, I was subject to the tax which was about 25 percent more than what I saved there. No doubt the governor's cronies already spent my money last year anyway, plus everybody else's.

Look at These Babies



I ordered fifteen packs. Altogether with the governor getting his vigorish it just goes over $64 US for that many.

There are over 1500 between the troops and the sixty pieces of artillery. There are closer-up pictures on the links already  provided, and I'll put up some more; I meant to do one particularly for the UK and Euro people last time but I'll just put it here.


The whole line so far has only ten packs, so I got one of each and a few extras in certain types strategically selected. That way I can see the entire range right here, and still expand in certain ones before ordering again.

Now when you check what the Fighting 15s guy said, here, you'll see he is a bit concerned he might run low on the bearskins Grenadiers first, but mine came from PicoArmor just that quick. Where it says 'here' leads to him talking about it on TMP, and where it says Fighting 15s it goes directly to their site, where the figures are pictured for all ten packs closer up, and priced at 3 GBP each. You can do the math, the rates change a little daily. I can't tell who's in worse shape between US and UK from such a rate, considering in the US they are $4, maybe free shipping. Time is a factor, though, too.

I don't know how Australia is doing for these, but they are probably coming right along, it isn't really that far anyway depending on your means of transportation.  On the Fighting 15 page they have a blue flag with a circle of stars. I think that means the Euro flag, but in any event  both of the sites linked take PayPal, etc, and can handle the conversions of currencies in a click.

From what I have seen so far, it looks like the bearskins could pass easily enough for an 18th Century Grenadier mitre with a different swipe of the brush. The infantry with helmets might be a better choice to do 18C fusiliers, until better ones come along. The guns could also be used earlier well enough. And the shakos themselves could possibly resemble the headgear of the Croats or Grenz troops from a generation earlier.

So we'll see whether the Napoleonic bicornes come in first before the tricornes we are waiting for. For the time being I will be using those Irregular 2mm wagons and tents I think as a substitute since no one has done them in 3mm yet. After all they are just game tokens, aren't they?

And Another Comparable Range From Inkbiz, Getting Closer to Fruition?

Inkbiz has been talking about his 4mm he sculpted, and teasing us with pictures, for a few years now. He picked this week to do it again, and there's an interesting discussion about that here, along with pics including painted.. He says he has a number of sculpts and is about to make some molds. So how compatible these would be next to the others is a very interesting question. No one has seen how much larger of smaller they will be side by side yet.

To me the frontage question is as important as the height and girth question, but there may be ways to work around whatever the result turns out to be. If he puts them closer together because some want to do 1:1 ratios, and he can by half a millimeter, then to my way of doing things there would be too many figures on a given frontage, unless something is done about it.

But let's say he does 1.5mm and the other are 2mm apart. Then the workaround is to use the narrower frontage ones for columns and that sort of thing. Also in some armies a 2- or 4-rank line is used instead of 3-ranks, and one way to express that on the table is with a different frontage for x number of troops. So whatever he does, there may be workarounds, unless they are absurdly out of scale. That remains to be seen when someone does see them.

For the moment, I am thinking about a one-meter square Leipzig 1813, where each tiny figure would be 312 men and a vivandiere, counted mathematically as a half man to even out the math. This would mean eight figures at this scale would stand for 2500 men, and small units would be divisions, half or a third of the small unit a brigade, and Corps have a few of the divisions.

This is about as far from the 1:1 idea as anything, but it does put Leipzig on a dining room table even though it is sixteen miles by thirteen and a half.

I already tried this scale for Gettysburg with the ACW, and it seemed it would work, but because the field there is only maybe six miles or less across I could see I could do that on a somewhat more intimate scale too, then was distracted by other battles, work, etc. Also I have so many more figures than that scale calls for, I thought then I would try having larger units and a larger field.

But a one meter Leipzig is now right here in my hands, and the only trouble is, these 1500 figures still won't be enough for such a massive battle. They would already come close to what I have in mind, but I will probably need more shako men. 1500 x 312.5 comes to 468,750 men, but because I wanted the whole variety that would mean some 46,000 Austrians would have helmets in 1813 unless I order more figures. So I think I will.

Also the cavalry are still limited to heavy cavalry in the French-style helmets for right now, so I look forward to fresh releases. I could make do with ACW cavalry for other types for the time being, while we are waiting.

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5 comments:

  1. I'm very interested to see some of these painted, will you be using a magnifying glass or such as like to paint them? They must be hard to paint being that small.

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  2. Hey, Ray, Yes, I will be using several different magnifiers and a pocket microscope with light, and a jeweler's loupe. I am not sure but it could be I have 10x, 15x and 30x optical devices plus the standard magnifiers that may come in around 2x,4x and 8x, or some such. I'll use whatever ones I can reach as I go.

    Plus I have a couple of those things that clip to your hat visor or stick around your head like a lens that hangs in front of your eyes, and that stand-up contraption with the roach clips all over it, and a glass. They all help for a no hands close up view.

    They have enough detail that you can see it with those magnifiers, and so are tempted to try to paint it, but even when you try a light touch for the 1/2 mm face, you will cover the head, chest and nearly to the belt.

    The tiny 00 brush is too big, and under magnification your own hand movements are also magnified, as the information your brain translated between your eyes and hand is on a different scale than normal.

    Then with the magnification you can see that, like a glaring error. So then you will go back over them, and over them. The result is that you always think you can do more, and it isn't ever a finished state.

    You also get the same feeling with 6mm, but on those there is just enough surface to hit what you want to hit. With these you hit that plus two other areas, and on the fix you still hit two more, so another fix.

    It's tricky because at the same time you think without magnification that you can paint these up in about four swipes, which you can, but the magnification is what drives you back again and again to make improvements.

    But when you set them in front of you, on the table a foot away, with no special optics, you discover you can't see all that tiny detail anymore anyway, and in fact you can hardly tell which are blue and which are grey, without squinting, or relying on the flags for a clue.

    So it is vanity, and probably a colossal waste of time, belied by the magnified camera shots, best thing is to use lighter colors than you think you want as that will show better.

    Come back at your leisure and click those links, there are a lot of pics not only form the retailers unpainted, but in the TMP threads of painted ACW with excellent terrain ideas and other ideas. The inkbiz link show one he painted himself, and makes a good show, but that is ONE and it is to show off a new product launch.

    The actual war gamers will have like 1500 at a time and the first four strokes do go pretty quickly. That is about where some of the 8,000 or so ACW are, but really to paint facings you have some rules decisions to make first, which I am still thinking about.

    This ratio of 1:312 plus a vivandiere I was talking about is pretty radical but I think it leads to what I thought DBA would be like when I first heard about it, before I realized it wasn't, if that's clear.

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  3. Definitely looking forward to some 3mm painted goodness sir!

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  4. Me to Pete! And okay they are small, but it's still a big amount of figures. 1500 figures, how long will it take you to paint them? I hope to see soon the first results!

    Greetings
    Peter
    http://peterscave.blogspot.be/

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  5. I think I will work on more pictures and paintings for you of Gigliola, Talyanna

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